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I think that a dohc 1.0 is inferior to a dohc 1.3 when virtually everything else is the same despite a little weight, I would want the extra displacement.
Why not spend your time and money on something that is a little more worthwile.
If you do the same mods to a 1.0 dohc or to a 1.3 dohc which is gonna make more power?
Why spend tons of time and money to make a 1.0 dohc when you could just get a 1.3dohc cheap and start modding there?

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Mk1 t3!

nah, originality is always cool.

a twincam g10 would be da' bomb. a g10 engine already is a marvel and a tuned g10 is like music to my ears.

i've got 2 twincams and i won't start a beef about them, i like them, too. on the same note, the 3 bangers are fun, economical, easy to work on, and very powerful. tuning them is a joy. parts are available at bargain prices at any junkyard and the performance parts are starting to be easier to find. 3 tech performance adds more neat stuff all the time.

the thing that you have to remember is that you're starting with an engine that was designed to be a work horse, not a race horse. the twincam was already highly tuned from the factory. apply the same care to the g10 and you get the same results. why would you want to deprive us of a twincam head?

are you afraid that we might come up with something that would horn in on your "racer" bragging rights?

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1991 Blue Geo Metro Convertible highly modified 1.0L Turbo3 5 spd. - 1991 Red Geo Metro Convertible customized with a Twincam 5 spd.

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I'm not saying it's worthless It'd be very cool. But you gotta ask yourself...

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yeah, yeah,

give us a twincam head for the 3 banger and you'd be cryin' in yer beer. restrictive valve dimensions and their lack of air flow is the only reason the g10 doesn't spin to 9,000 rpm like it's big brother. if the g10 could make 3/4 of the output of the twincam, the weight reduction would tip the balance on the weight to horsepower scales and you'd be talkin' a very different and very sad story.

i still don't understand why you would deny us the full development of the 3 banger - that is unless you're afraid it'd steal your thunder.

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1991 Blue Geo Metro Convertible highly modified 1.0L Turbo3 5 spd. - 1991 Red Geo Metro Convertible customized with a Twincam 5 spd.

My Turbo3 Project
My Cardomain Page -Ol' Blue
My YouTube Channel
My Photo Gallery
SAAB Sonett II

You guys could develop it all ya want I think it'd be cool. Sounds like an engineering nightmare though. I think Suprf1y should definately look into it, perhaps build a test head. Just to see what it can do. It would definately be a peppy little fu@#er though . I bet a nicely modded one would run side by side with a fairly stock GT. But it all boils down to who's got the $ and spare parts to mess up in development.

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I know a nicley modded T3cyl would run side by side with a fairly stock GT.... for for NA I'm not too sure

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'94 Suzuki Swift g10 3tech stuff:Port&Polish,225/355 cam,11:1 CR, SS valves,+10 Cam gear,underdrive; K&N intake; LTLSU's Custom racing springs with Monroe struts (2" lower front, 0.5" lower back); 185/55/R14 Kumho Ecsta SPT tires on Eagle 040 rims; Stripped out interior and removed AC system

The fuel economy difference in the G13B is probably due to a more
aggresive camshaft profile in the twin cam motor. The 10:1 CR ought
to help fuel economy. There is a small friction loss to the extra cam,
but not alot. I could get 44 MPG in a Toyota (Geo Prizm) twin cam
1.6 motor with five speed.

New economy minded Daihatsu and Suzuki threes have twn cams. I
think these motors also variable valve timing.

You can't divide by zero -- the gas mileage approaches infinity and it will be forever parked an never see the road. Just crack up the boost on th G10T and fo git about it, or swap for a G13B -- this is craZZZZy

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fiat 500 powered by 1.3 L Suzuki DOHC 16V...or maybe a 1.0 liter turbo... some day!

If suzi had thought that a g10 DOHC was worth it they would have released it into production. Just let things be they way they were designed to be. I like my SOHC. It gets me from point a to point b with very good fuel economy.

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-- Don --
The G10, Suzukis way of natural traction control.

This is my hooptie, there are many like it but this one is mine. With out my hooptie I am walking and without me my hooptie is broken down.

Why not just grab the later model Alto Works RS-X front cut (660cc F6A DOHC and 5-Speed Manual FWD) and convert them to a Turbo 3????

I'm guessing the F6A could be bored and stroked as well, it might not be a G10T but its close enough if you can pull 750cc's+ from it!

Bigger turbo, manifolds, etc. The possibilities are endless. Plus they have forged internals from factory like the G13B.

Just a thought... Just a thought...

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People will always ask WHY when questioned... WHY NOT would have a better answer and be an even better question!

those 3 cl DOHC will be nice

Too bad it's a step backwards. Upgrading to a 3cyl DOHC, and then taking 333cc's away. I believe that would take your torque wayyy down. Not to mention you'd have to turbo it just to get the power back up to a nicely modded N/A 1.0L

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The F6A DOHC I'm talking about is turbo'd from factory (Alto Works RS/X FWD Turbo), bore it, stroke it and put on a nice sized turbo with medium boost. Wow...lose displacement...lose weight too.

Even an F6B DOHC 16-Valve 4-Banger could be used, might be easier to take it out to around a litre... Turbo'd from factory too.

Well if people can pull 120kW out of a CB80 then why not 80kW from one of these little babies???!!!

Just a thought...

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People will always ask WHY when questioned... WHY NOT would have a better answer and be an even better question!

I know, I'm digging a bit, but the more I think about it, the more I think I may want to look into this a bit more...

Anybody know where to import the daihatsu 3 bangers from????
That would be wayyy cool to put into the car.

Thor

looking around for the engine designation i found a Australian place. they say overseas shipment can be arranged.

http://www.adelaidejap.com.au/engine_packs.htm

scroll down and theres:
an F6B from an Alto for $$2450 aus dollars (so thats 1819 us dollars as of today.)
and a K6A for $2650 ($1968 us) from a type R wagon.

theres undoubtedly many other dismantlers out there so look about. but most likely youll have to go to an overseas company i think to get what you want. and i dont know how much theyll charge to ship it here. i guess how bad to you want to experiment with this little thing? just some results of curiosity and searching. prices include GST whatever that is. just thought id pass it along.

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I wish my grass was "emo" so it would cut itself.

hey who about a head off of a v6 or the head off of a subaru justy 1.2l the head on the 1.2l is 9v and will add displacement. and more horsepower and torq. also not to mention turbo!

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nucking futs!

my car is blood thirsty!

GIT-R-DONE

The head will not add any displacement, it'll only affect the compression ratio.

ok. but would it work? i want the head off of the 1.2l and also it has 3extra valves. 9 is better than 6 also how bad would it afficted the compression?

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nucking futs!

my car is blood thirsty!

GIT-R-DONE

I was thinking of taking the head from a f6a. But I think I'd be too small. Maybe the k10 head would work as it is 998cc. I don't have the dimensions got that head or even much info on the engine. I want to say maruti suzuki came up with a dohc 3. Which had 4 exhaust ports? Maybe it was a dream or something?

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1987 Chevy Sprint base 1.0 3cyl 993cc (R.I.P.)
1986 Chevy Sprint base 1.0 3cyl 993cc (Totaled)
1994 Geo Metro base 1.0 3cyl 993cc (Had to sell)
1996 Geo Tracker 1.6l 16v 4cyl 1590cc (Daily)

Holy dead post Dattman... another 10 y/o thread revived.

This is the only twin cam 3 pot G10 I've ever seen, obviously built to race in a 1000cc class, although these days you could source and Indian made G10B 4cyl engine with 16v head.




The new suzuki K10b is a great little engine, chain driven twin cam 3 pot with 68bhp and nothing is compatible with the g10 though, the k10b is a significantly better engine in performance, economy, NVH levels and service intervals.

I've seen that car somewhere on the interwebnets! think it was on google when looking for racing mk1's awhile back. Didn't get a look at the engine tho. Seems like it is a cut down 1.3L dohc head. Either that or was cut down, re-casted, and made to fit. Distributor is also intriguing. I wish there was a way to get a hold of who ever made this or where it came from. As I have seen the car running on the youtubes. Would be nice to find out how they made them and start re producing this. I would imagine you would get a few more RPM's out of the motor with that bad boy!

LOL @ 12v dohc 1000! I want one now. I go search internets now!

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1987 Chevy Sprint base 1.0 3cyl 993cc (R.I.P.)
1986 Chevy Sprint base 1.0 3cyl 993cc (Totaled)
1994 Geo Metro base 1.0 3cyl 993cc (Had to sell)
1996 Geo Tracker 1.6l 16v 4cyl 1590cc (Daily)

look at the valve cover it say's 1000+ 12V (where did he source that valve cover?)....I don't think he made it. Let's keep in mind that in Columbia The Mk1 was built in the through the 90's. Never mind found the link that car is from Ecuador South Americahttp://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=23246&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Suzuki offers a 3 cylinder twin cam 12 valve port injected turbo charged 6 speed manual transmission that is in production now. We can't get it here in North America. But they can get it in Afganistan. If they offered it here I would be standing in line to get one. In afganistan the Suzuki Swifts with that drive line are selling for $10,000 american dollars.

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Fainya
97 Geo Metro LSI,1.3L-GT-DOHC-16v,4.10 5-speed,A/C,170,000,suspension lowered 1",4 wheel disk brakes,15"alloy wheels with 185/50-15 Toyo's,GT bucket seats,analog oil pressure gauge,cruise control, new paint job. 40 mpg at 65 mph.
Good, fast, cheap. You only get two.

k10b for sale on ebay right now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Nissan-O ... bd&vxp=mtr

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95 Metro hatch "Tequila lime" all stock
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F/S 90 Metro hatch
F/S 89 Swift GTi body only
F/S 92 Tracker 2 dr rwd stock
93 Sidekick 4 dr 1.9 vw TD, WVO conversion, 6" lift over 33's